Thursday, September 29, 2005

Red vs. Blue

Things I've noticed while watching media coverage of the recent

1. Texas: Productive industrious state run by Republicans.
Louisiana: Government dependent welfare state run by Democrats.

2. Texas: Residents take responsibility to protect and evacuate
Louisiana: Residents wait for government to protect and evacuate them.

3. Texas: Local & state officials take responsibility for protecting
their citizens & property.
Louisiana: Local & state officials blame federal government for not
protecting their citizens & property.

4. Texas: Command and control remains in place to preserve order.
Louisiana: Command and control collapses allowing lawlessness.

5. Texas: Law enforcement officers remain on duty to protect city.
Louisiana: Law enforcement officers desert their posts to protect

6. Texas: Local police watch for looting.
Louisiana: Local police participate in looting.

7. Texas: Law and order remains in control, 8 looters tried it, 8
looters arrested.
Louisiana: Anarchy and lawlessness breaks out, looters take over city,
no arrests, criminals with guns have to be shot by federal troops.

8. Texas: Considerable damage caused by hurricane.
Louisiana: Considerable damage caused by looters.

9. Texas: Flood barriers hold preventing cities from flooding.
Louisiana: Flood barriers fail due to lack of maintenance allowing city
to flood.

10. Texas: Orderly evacuation away from threatened areas, few remain.
Louisiana: 25,000 fail to evacuate, are relocated to another flooded

11. Texas: Citizens evacuate with personal 3 day supply of food and
Louisiana: Citizens fail to evacuate with 3 day supply of food &water,
do without it for the next 4 days.

12. Texas: FEMA brings in tons of food & water for evacuees. State
officials provide accessible distribution points.
Louisiana: FEMA brings in tons of food and water for evacuees. State
officials prevent citizens from reaching distribution points & vice versa.

13. Louisiana: Media focuses on poor blacks in need of assistance,
blames Bush.
Texas: Media can't find poor blacks in need of assistance, looking for
something else to blame on Bush so they move on to Delay.

14. Texas: Coastal cities suffer some infrastructure damage, Mayors
tell residents to stay away until ready for repopulation, no interference from federal officials.
Louisiana: New Orleans is destroyed, Mayor asks residents to return home as
another hurricane approaches, has to be overruled by federal officials.

15. Louisiana: Over 400 killed by storm, flooding and crime.
Texas: 24 killed in bus accident on highway during evacuation, no storm
related deaths.

16. Texas: Jailed prisoners are relocated to other detention facilities
outside the storm area.
Louisiana: Jailed prisoners are set free to prey on city shops,
residents, and homes.

17. Texas: Local and state officials work with FEMA and Red Cross in
recovery operations.
Louisiana: Local and state officials obstruct FEMA and Red Cross from
aiding in recovery operations.

18. Texas: Local and state officials demonstrate leadership in managing
disaster areas.
Louisiana: Local and state officials fail to demonstrate leadership,
require federal government to manage disaster areas.

19. Texas: Fuel deliveries can't keep up with demand, some run out of
gas on highway, need help from fuel tankers before storm arrives.
Louisiana: Motorists wait till storm hits and electrical power fails.
Cars run out of gas at gas stations that can't pump gas. Gas in underground mixes with flood waters.

20. Texas: Mayors move citizens out of danger.
Louisiana: Mayor moves himself and family to Dallas.

21. Texas: Mayors continue public service announcements and updates on
television with Governor's backing and support.
Louisiana: Mayor cusses, governor cries, senator threatens president
with violence on television, none of them have a clue what went wrong or who's responsible.

22. Louisiana: Democratic Senator says FEMA was slow in responding to
911 calls from Louisiana citizens.
Texas: Republican Senator says "when you call 911, the phone doesn't
ring in Washington, it rings here at the local responders".


Blogger Eddie said...

Dude, this post just rocked. It's so true though. Come check out my conservative blog sometime.

10:51 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

I just wanted to be the first guy to make a second comment.

12:16 PM  
Blogger Ranting Republican said...

haha - Hi Eddie!

12:44 PM  
Blogger Ranting Republican said...

Very nice post A-L!

12:48 PM  
Blogger Texas Cynic said...

One problem Anti-Liberali,

Louisiana is a red state...check your electoral maps.

While we're at it...if you want to compare red states to blue the education level of blue staters to red staters and the obesity levels of red staters to blue staters.....basically, it proves that Republicans are fat, bald, stupid and I've always said.

4:25 PM  
Blogger Ranting Republican said...

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5:30 PM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

Thanks for the political study Cynic... I would have never known that without you!

How about you watch the news or look at the internet... maybe you will find that the Gov. of LA and the Mayor of NO were liberals. I also don't recall ever once saying that LA was a blue state - I was just talking about liberals lack of decent leadership.

I sure am not fat, ugly, or uneducated... are you cynic? You live in Texas and Texas is a red state so using your argument you must be a fat uneducated moron. Basically the only thing that study says is that liberals are nothing but skinny educated pricks that don't do a damn thing but smoke weed and use the hard working Republicans to pay their bills!

5:31 PM  
Blogger ImMikeJones said...

Apparently every person in urban America is an unemployed pothead who lives off the Republicans in rural America? No one is employed in New York City, Baltimore, Washington D.C., Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago, Milwaukee, Austin, Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Portland, Denver, Detroit, Minneapolis, Cleveland, Columbus, St. Louis, etc....??

I believe something like 91% of the people in D.C. voted against Bush this past election. Does that mean that 91% of D.C. is unemployed?

7:59 PM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

WOW something decent coming out of immikejones's mouth... not intelligent but decent!

I was making a comment to Cynic... I am assuming you did read his overly stupid post. But speaking of DC - have you ever been there? I have, and I would venture to say that 99% of the true residents ARE living off the working Republicans. Most of the people there are Government employees (which means Republicans), students and interns... they aren't technically living there!

8:04 PM  
Blogger Texas Cynic said...


We see your statement about D.C. as sugar coated racism. Everyone knows that the District Columbia has one of the largest populations of African-Americans in the United States.

While I am a Texan, I defy many of the stereotypes associated with Texas:

1.) I am educated.
2.) I'm not fat
3.) I have never been on a horse
4.) I did not vote for Bush
5.) I support gay marriage
6.) I'm pro choice
7.) I don't own a pair of wranglers
8.) I don't listen to country music

Etc. etc. etc.

8:29 PM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

It isn't racism Cynic - it is the truth. You are a typical liberal constantly pointing the finger at everyone trying to make an argument when there really isn't one there. Must be a miserable life you lead.

I am not/or have not done half of those things... hmmm .... how does that fit into your argument Cynic? Who is the racist now??? Racism isn't only discriminating against blacks!

8:32 PM  
Blogger Smoke Eater said...

Hey Cynic - I too live in Texas, and while I do (from time to time) listen to country music, I have ridden a horse (and it's actually fun and relaxing, try it some time), I own more than one pair of wrangler jeans, I DID vote for Bush, I am NOT fat, nor bald, nor stupid, nor ignorant. I pride myself on first studying something then debating it. I am the president of my college debate team, and in my first competition in OVER TEN YEARS (since HS), I took first in my primary event. The next one, I took 2nd in both of my events (maybe I should only do one even per comp, I don't know).

What I'm getting at is that "the left" while citing all of their eductation, seems to be the least "smart". Edcucation does NOT equal intelligence. I know MANY people with multiple degrees who are VERY stupid, and many who only went HS then stopped, who are VERY smart.

Mostly I would agree with the last line of the post, here in Texas, we call for action, in LA, they called for someone else to do it for them!

BTW - A/L - Sorry I had to duck out last night, but family needs arose. How'd the rest of the program go?

8:44 PM  
Blogger pappy said...

Great post, always good to read your blog.

12:27 AM  
Blogger American Idiot said...

i have to open my mouth on this one. while i do not think that A-L is explicitly a racist, i agree with CYNIC that her comment about 99% of people in DC are lazy and living off the republicans is thinly veiled racism.

DC is one of the most african american large cities in this country. by saying the only people in DC that have jobs are the interns and politicians and students who come in (who apparently are all republican???) is basically saying that the overwhelming majority of the people in the city are unemployed, lazy black people.

try to legitimize the comment all you want but it is a good insight into what republicans really think but are afraid to say because they know they will be scolded for it. You honestly feel in your hearts that black people are inherently lazy and their only ambition in life is to mooch off of the government and "hard working republicans."

call it not racist if you like but almost every metropolitan area in this country is disproportionately liberal or at least democrat-voting. and african americans tend to live more in urban areas than rural areas. Your comments basically state that those that live in urban areas (which is typically more black than others) are inherently lazier than those that live in more rural areas.

not only is this false (people in cities have jobs) but it is clearly a sign that you feel poorer, underpriviledged, mainly african american people are all lazy and unemployed and unambitious.

rationalize it all you want by saying that "white people are poor and lazy sometimes too" but the fact is you honestly feel that way about poor america, which in the case of dc and almost every other city, is disproportionately black. your comment that the only people working basically are the republicans who come into town to work but don't live there backs up my claim.

p.s. the governement employees you make reference to (which doesn't necessarily mean republican but for some reason you think it does) are quite typically (not always) residents of dc who would therefore vote there as well. many also live in virginia and maryland (red and blue respectively) so don't try to pass on that they are all republicans.

8:14 AM  
Blogger Tori said...

god, it sounds like there are a bunch of al sharptons,howard deans, and jesses in here. believe it or not, not EVERYTHING is about race. man some people are touchy.

So tell me is this is racist or an observation:

I teach at a school thats probably 70% white, 20% hispanic and 10% black.

I'd day 99% of my students who are failing are black or hispanic. 99% of the behavior problems/fights/etc. are black or hispanic kids. So based on that, can I connect dots or does that make me racist? I treat all my students exactly the same.

This is where crazys will say that I am subconsciously oppressing the minorities, or being tougher on them while letting the misbehavior of white students go. None of this is true but some people would tear me a new asshole for making simple observations.

10:19 AM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

Exactly Tori! Everytime someone makes an observation the only thing that liberals can do is point fingers and scream RACIST! These are facts... it is the truth. I NEVER said all blacks are lazy and poor - that would be a racist comment. The ONLY thing I said was that DC had a high jobless population with most of the actual working population not even from there - mostly government officials, students, and interns.

Thanks for pulling a Sharpton guys... lets make sure that everything is about race ALL the time!

10:36 AM  
Blogger American Idiot said...

not everything is about race. i don't like it when people do that either. but this happens to be about race. and i would like to see where you get this information that dc has a high jobless rate. i think you are just assuming so. so me data.

this is funny because i was listening to howard stern this morning and he was talking about a right wing radio personality named william (bill) bennett. they played a clip from bennett's radio show where he said (i am not paraphrasing, this is actually what he said) "if we aborted every black baby in america the crime rate would go down."

this is the same rationale as what tori said and what anti-lib said. you probably won't think of it as being racist. you will probably think of it as "stating facts." but the thing is that you really think this way about black people. when you think black you think lazy criminals. that is your intrinsic belief and even if you don't necessarily dislike blacks or you claim to "treat all your students the same" you still feel this way in your heart. that they are the ones who will be causing the trouble and not working.

in the end it is this exact mindset that makes it even harder for african americans to succeed in this country. they are written off by the time they are in high school at the latest by white corporate america. instead of looking for a way to stop the cycle that both whites and blacks have created they are just written off and dismissed as criminals and unemployed drug addicts. it is much easier to disregard someone when they are looked at this way than as an actual human being with potential beneath the exterior.

12:21 PM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

If that is what that guy said I do think it is a racist statement. NOT ONCE in MY statements did I say anything about race/blacks/minorities etc... So your argument against my statements don't hold water. You are comparing apples and oranges here.

What you really want to say is that ALL Republicans are just flat out racist and hate blacks. So everything we say should be turned into some racist comment because that is what we mean anyways even though we don't say it.

I don't hate all black people - and I know that goes for almost ALL Republicans. I LOVE Condi, Powell, Thomas, Michael Jordan, Ludacris, The black guy on the apprentice, Nelly, Dr. Dre, Vince Young, Quinton McCracken, Tiger Woods, Emmit Smith, Wayne Simein, Keith Langford, Aaron Miles, Dion Sanders, David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Avery Johnson, Martin Luther King, Plaxico Burress, 2 professors here: Newman and Green, and all of my personal friends.... I could keep the list going but I think you got my point. I admire almost every single one of them on my list.

It is very ignorant to assume that every Republican is racist and so every statement they make is racist as well. I could do the same if I wanted to... I could go on forever about how the liberals HATE blacks/poor/minorities. But I wont - because it isn't ALL liberals. There are many out there that do care and want to help them out. So I wont make an issue with everything you say claiming that you are racist even though you haven't said anything racist at all. That is how intelligent people think... and for some reason LIBERALS don't think that way - even though they are SOOO proud of their education. At least start acting like you have one!

1:13 PM  
Blogger Tori said...

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1:51 PM  
Blogger Tori said...

I was listening to Bill Bennett when that "nasty, racist quote" was said.....and its so taken out of context. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN HEARING THE WHOLE STORY, HERE IS THE WORD FOR WORD CONVERSATION:

From the September 28 broadcast of Salem Radio Network's Bill Bennett's Morning in America:

CALLER: I noticed the national media, you know, they talk a lot about the loss of revenue, or the inability of the government to fund Social Security, and I was curious, and I've read articles in recent months here, that the abortions that have happened since Roe v. Wade, the lost revenue from the people who have been aborted in the last 30-something years, could fund Social Security as we know it today. And the media just doesn't -- never touches this at all.

BENNETT: Assuming they're all productive citizens?

CALLER: Assuming that they are. Even if only a portion of them were, it would be an enormous amount of revenue.

BENNETT: Maybe, maybe, but we don't know what the costs would be, too. I think as -- abortion disproportionately occur among single women? No.

CALLER: I don't know the exact statistics, but quite a bit are, yeah.

BENNETT: All right, well, I mean, I just don't know. I would not argue for the pro-life position based on this, because you don't know. I mean, it cuts both -- you know, one of the arguments in this book Freakonomics that they make is that the declining crime rate, you know, they deal with this hypothesis, that one of the reasons crime is down is that abortion is up. Well --

CALLER: Well, I don't think that statistic is accurate.

BENNETT: Well, I don't think it is either, I don't think it is either, because first of all, there is just too much that you don't know. But I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down. So these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky.

2:17 PM  
Blogger Tori said...

"this is the same rationale as what tori said and what anti-lib said. you probably won't think of it as being racist. you will probably think of it as "stating facts." but the thing is that you really think this way about black people. when you think black you think lazy criminals. that is your intrinsic belief and even if you don't necessarily dislike blacks or you claim to "treat all your students the same" you still feel this way in your heart. that they are the ones who will be causing the trouble and not working."

american idiot- what right do you have to tell me the way I think and put words in my mouth? You don't know me and you certainly give the perfect example of what Liberali and I were talking about. I PHYSICALLY SEE THIS STUFF EVERY DAY AND YOU'RE TELLING ME I DONT? That I've made it up in my mind because I'm racists that my minority students are the ones who are failing and giving me the most trouble? ITS TRUE! And its not because I'm a bad teacher, its pretty much across the board at the school.

Do you know that I work 70 hours a week and any spare second I'm trying to help these kids? I'm meeting with them, tutoring them, calling home to talk with their parent(s) on how to better their attitude and grades. Don't you dare put words in my mouth.

2:25 PM  
Blogger lilybriscoe said...

Actually, I have my facts straight. I had read the statement in context. I also watched the Fox news coverage and heard Bennett defending his position, and it doesn't sound any less disgusting. I'm not sure how anyone except an asshole like yourself can defend his position.

I understand that he is not condoning aborting black babies as a national crime reduction policy, but that fact that he states that such a policy would be effective is RACIST. To state as a fact that wiping out a generation of black people would lead to the reduction of crime is offensive to black people and all people of conscience.

2:42 PM  
Blogger Ranting Republican said...

Tori & A-L: if simply stating facts and legitimate observations means you are a racist, there's no use in arguing with these people. They see things the way they want to see them, the way which helps with their agenda, and the way which attempts to discredit anything further you have to say on any given issue. By turning issues that are plainly not racial issues (okay, I said it american idiot - apprently I'm a racist now too), and making them into racial issues the left has for years played this game to downplay the real issue (which they have no solution for) and make Republicans out to look like racists - because they know they have the media on their side and will report exactly what they want.

It's a trick they've been using for years, and it's not likely to go away any time soon - that is, until the black population realizes that the libs haven't done anything for them in the last few decades. Why blacks blindly follow the dems is a mystery - sort of like how Bush made Katrina hit only highly black populated areas.

2:56 PM  
Blogger Tori said...

i agree RR...I'm getting quite bored with this. No matter what republicans say, we're racist for pointing out things that dems don't want to deal with. Its never fun turning the mirror on yourself.

3:07 PM  
Blogger crossingguard69 said...

Harsh as it might be, statisticly, if every black person left the country, there would be less crime...just by sheer drop in population numbers...not to mention 1/3 black males are incarcerated in their lives...maybe it is just some cultural inclination to live a life of crime, or maybe it is a harsh system that holds them down...either way, there is no argument that there is more crime in cities with higher minority disregard this data in hopes of not looking racist is just stupid when the facts are not saying one way or the other on race, but statisticly what Bennett said was an obvious reactional statement to the correct interpretation of crime statistics in call me a racist and keep your heads buried in the sand

3:14 PM  
Blogger Texas Cynic said...

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4:26 PM  
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4:28 PM  
Blogger Texas Cynic said...

In my line of work, I deal with countless frivilous lawsuits on daily basis. A majority of the plaintiffs we deal with are refinery worker from the Goldern Triangle and Gulf Coast areas.

As you know, these are relatively poor areas with low education rates. A lot of times, you deal with plaintiffs that have something less than a high school education but 6+ kids.

Recently, I came across a man with 12 kids and a 6th Grade education. This got me to thinking, something must be done.

I propose we have certain education requirements a person must meet before they are allowed to have kids. A high schoold education is not good enough to support yourself and a family anymore, so I say you should have at least a bachelor's degree before procreating. A graduate degree would earn you the right to have two kids.

There's really no reason to have more than 2 kids. Multiple kids creates a virtual slave of the female and slows her progress in the professional world.

So in review:

If you have less than a bachelor's degree: 0 kids

Bachelor's degree: 1 kid

Graduate degree: 2 kids

In 10 to 20 years, the uneducated would die off, leaving the world with an intellectual elite. Poverty would be virtually non-existent.

4:30 PM  
Blogger Tori said...

well, NOW we're getting somewhere....haaa haaa

5:35 PM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

Sounds good to me!

5:45 PM  
Blogger Texas Cynic said...

See, you just thought you hated me, but we actually envision the same "end"--we merely seek different "means" to achieve it.

6:17 PM  
Blogger Ranting Republican said...

well - i see the "progressive" side of cynic has come out...i've been waiting for it.

8:03 PM  
Blogger crossingguard69 said...

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11:30 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

As far as comments about people working in urban areas, it is very true that people working in urban areas do very well for themselves, but most of them live in VERY CONSERVATIVE suburbs. A few live in the City, and there are a few hard working individuals who are communists that vote for the Democrats, but not very many. I work in one of the Cities you mentioned, Downtown, and I assure you, most people in my department vote Republican.

DC is a very poor City and yes, most who live there do leech off productive taxpayers.

8:39 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Texas Cynic,

Your last post is bullshit. My parents had five children and I defy you to find more productive, hard working people than those in my family (especially me :) and compare us to those spoiled brats for children in 1-2 parent homes. Most of those are spoiled lefties that I met, many pampered by their parents.

8:42 AM  
Blogger C.T. said...

I disagree with Tori's comment that the message was taken out of context. Merely tagging along a qualifying statement, namely admitting to the moral reprehensible aspect of such hypothesis, doesn't make the statement any less racial. I'm not saying that Bennett was a racist. I certainly wouldn't go as far as saying that all Republicans are racist. However, the Republican party does not seem to condem such statements ... and this is a significant problem. What was the White House's position? "Bennett's statement was inapporiate." Wow, what a slap on the hands. The lack of outrage - or at the least condemnation - of such statements shows the insensitivity of the Republican Party.

9:40 AM  
Blogger Tori said...

what would be an appropriate punishment then? Cut off his balls and shove them down his throat? Public stoning by black people? Kicked off the air? What? Liberals say worse crap than that on a daily basis and are praised for it! Its so freaking hypocritical.

9:43 AM  
Blogger C.T. said...

On another note. I'm opposing Harriet Miers on face value. I admit, I have not read her entire biography nor her ideological philosophy. In fact, I know nothing about her except her resume. Given my qualifiers, her nomination merely demonstrates Bush's long standing policy of nepotism and recruitment from within. As the Washington Post points out, "Miers's low-key but high-precision style has been particularly valued in a White House where discipline in publicly articulating policy and loyalty to the president are highly valued."

Yes, Meirs is female. No, Miers has never sat on the bench. And following Robert's confirmation process, it is unlikely we'll see any working papers produced by Miers as well. Her creditials are certainly lacking for the nation's highest court. I know, not everyone can be as impressive as Roberts; but it would be nice if she's at least clerked somewhere.

She's a bureacrat, not a litigator. Just because she was a lawyer, doesn't mean she can do the job. Two words: Michael Brown.

9:50 AM  
Blogger Tori said...

did you know that many democrats actually suggested her? President Bush met with over 80 senate members, many democrat and she was on virtually all of their lists!

9:56 AM  
Blogger C.T. said...

Tori, I like your suggestions .. but it's a little too biblical for the 21st century. I won't clamour to have Bennett step down or kicked off the air. That'll go against every First Amendment principal I believe. Rather, I'd urge the White House to do more than: "The president believes the comments were not appropriate," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said last week.

At the very least ... explain why the comments were inappropriate. McClellan (who is woefully incompetant) should at least say, "The president believes the comments were not appropriate. Bennett should have included Blacks, Browns, Yellows, and Gays."

Alright, that was in poor taste and I understand if Shannon will kick me off for that. But the bottom line is that the White House should at the very least state that they DISAGREE with Bennett's comment. Silence is tolerance.

9:58 AM  
Blogger Tori said...

c.t, that is total bullshit. So what about this:

"Last week Charles Rangel, a Dem from Harlem, in the House said George W. Bush, is the modern equivalent of Bull Conner to this generation of African-Americans. The Democratic National Committee backed him up. There wasn't one word of outrage anywhere in the mainstream press, the liberal media, or any other liberal organization. They were clapping their hands and they were going, "Right on, right on, right on. More of it." So Rangel gave them more of it. And they just ate it all up. We have had George Bush compared to Adolf Hitler."

10:23 AM  
Blogger American Idiot said...

TORI you fail to realize that there is an ENORMOUS difference between caomparing one man (GWB)to bull connor, or adolf hitler for that matter, and making a blanket statement about and entire race.

if charles rangel said that all republicans should be executed on the stop immediately to avoid and future corportate scandals there might be a bigger problem.

and if bill bennett had said that if mike tyson's mom had aborted him there would be less rape in this country it wouldn't be so bad.

don't you see the difference?

additionally, EDDIE i don't know what large city you are referring to, but i was born and raised in a very urban, very blue collar neighborhood in the city of philadelphia and have lived here my whole life. and every person that i know in my neighborhood is incredibly hard working (for instance, my step father started as a laborer in his fathers construction company in his early teens and has been at that job his entire life until taking control of the company once his father retired). this is not the exception but pretty much the rule where i am from.

and almost every single person that i know in this neighborhood voted for john kerry. and it is a very old school white, italian neighborhood. in fact, everyone i know in downtown philadelphia that is in more of the white collar work force also voted for john kerry.

i am not sure what group of people you were hanging around, but there are 1.6 million people LIVING WITHIN THE CITY (not suburbs) in philadelphia and 80% of those people voted for john kerry. and i would estimate that the unemployment rate of those 1.6 million people is drastically less than 80%.

somehow it is forgotten that 53 million people voted for the losing side in this past election and to suggest that those 53 million people are all unemployed drug addicts is outrageous. all the hardest working blue collar people i know are democrats.

10:39 AM  
Blogger American Idiot said...

also, EDDIE, your assumption that the suburbs of these large cities are "VERY CONSERVATIVE" is also wrong. the counties out in the sticks are "VERY CONSERVATIVE." of the 7 counties that border philadelphia county (you can do the homework on other large cities if you like) only 1 of them supported bush.

pa counties bucks, montgomery, and delware county all supported kerry by large margins as did nj counties camden, gloucester, and burlington. only pa's chester county supported bush. and if you ask anyone from this area, they would probably say that is the least affluent of all the counties i mentioned.

10:49 AM  
Blogger American Idiot said...

as far as this particular thread is concerned, i have two beefs with it.

first, saying "things i've noticed while watching...." is bullshit because this is from a forwarded email that is being circulated around the internet. don't take credit for it as being your personal observations.

second, don't you think the fact that new orleans got crushed the way that it did makes it much more likely that people will take these situations more seriously from now on? do you really think it mattered that it was texas that got hit by rita? do you think that if rita was gonna hit boston that people iin boston and the local and state governments of massachusettes would just ist around with their thumbs up their asses?

if katrina had been headed for the coast of texas it seems unlikely that there would have been the kind of pre-storm preparations that were in place. the people and the govt's got spooked by katrina and THAT is why the response was drastically better. not because texas has more republicans in its government.

get real.

11:21 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

AA, I am only speaking of where I live, which is far more conservative than the NE liberals you speak of. There are decent County's that surround Philadelphia, the one that quickly comes to mind is Lancaster County.

You are speaking from your own experience, I am speaking from mine. My gf's father has worked for a union for 30 years and voted for Bush. He is very intellectual and does not allow his blue collar union to brainwash his voting patterns. To say that all City dwellers are communists is kind of missing the point. I can't completely agree that the Northeast isn't in a bubble, you got me there.

Yes, there are many lazy, leechy, loafing City residents in every big City, as there are in areas of rural America.

12:56 PM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

First of all Texas was prepared for a hurricane like katrina had it come here instead of NO. We were very prompt and organized in taking in the people from LA. After Katrina I felt very secure that our government could have handled things in the proper manner and Rita proved it! So don't give me your dumb bullshit about Texas not being prepared - I think the proof is in the promptness of us helping with the Katrina victims.

Second... I have been to Philly - numerous times. It is nothing but a ghetto ass disgusting place. I am sure the people in your neighborhood work and voted for Kerry - but everyone else there is jobless and sucking off everyone else (which is typical for an urban BLUE city).

Thanks for your input though!

1:17 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

The only good thing to come out of Philly was Boyz 2 Men, ABC, and BBD, the East Coast family.

1:45 PM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

Ya! And even that is pushing it!!

1:52 PM  
Blogger Tori said...

"if charles rangel said that all republicans should be executed on the stop immediately to avoid and future corportate scandals there might be a bigger problem."


2:13 PM  
Blogger Texas Cynic said...

Suburbs are normally conservative...they provide the only safe harbor for America's number one enemy, the mega church.

They are a few suburbs, like Denton, that defy the conservative nature of a suburb.

3:53 PM  
Blogger C.T. said...

Tori, I agree that Rangel's race-baiting was also in poor taste. But are you suggesting that the Republican party should lower its civility to Rangel's level. Yes, neither Clinton nor Obama raised objection. That still does not justify the lack of condemnation of Bennett's comments from the Bush Administration.

Fundamentally, I agree with American Idiot that you're "comparing apples and oranges." There's a distinction between a broad statement concerning an entire class of people and a derogatory statement made against a public figure (remember constitutional malice is required for defamation). I'm sure you'll concede this.

As for your liberal media cry. I wouldn't know. I look to the BBC because I can't stand FOX, MSNBC, CNN, or CNNHN.

3:55 PM  
Blogger Tori said...

the BBC? They're horrible. good lord in heaven.

4:36 PM  
Blogger C.T. said...

I'd like to correct my previously posted Miers comment. She did serve as a law clerk for a federal judge after graduating from SMU.

I have not come across any wide-spread support for Miers from the Democratic side. Fox News cited
Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid as personally recommending Miers. However, the same article notes that House Democratic Leader nancy Pelosi, D-CA, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-NY, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-CA, while amiable to Bush's nomination will also closely scrutinze Miers and her record.

Fox News Article

4:37 PM  
Blogger C.T. said...

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4:41 PM  
Blogger C.T. said...

To each his or her own Tori (regarding news outlets). However, I'd still like to hear your thoughts on my comment:

Fundamentally, I agree with American Idiot that you're "comparing apples and oranges." There's a distinction between a broad statement concerning an entire class of people and a derogatory statement made against a public figure (remember constitutional malice is required for defamation).

4:42 PM  
Blogger Texas Cynic said...

I guess Ann Coulter hasn't commented on Mier's nomination yet...I notice The Anti-Liberali is quite about the whole issue.

4:46 PM  
Blogger American Idiot said...

i find it hard to believe that you honestly feel that katrina had little influence on texas's ability to deal with rita and prepare for it. no one expected what happened in new orleans and the fact that it was as bad as it was clearly had people on edge and more responsive when rita was on its way.

as for philadelphia, say what you want about it but it has become one of the most popular cities in america recently AND is home to a signifcantly better football team than any city in texas has. you guys excited for this weekend? losing to 0-3 oakland was pretty impressive. where oh where have all the shit talking cowboys fans gone?

5:38 PM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

Most popular to who??? The homeless, drug dealers and gang members don't count!

And Philly might have gotten a few W's but if I recall correctly it wasn't easy for them. I seem to remember a loss, and them behind EVERY game and barely winning!

7:16 PM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

Oh and cynic... I haven't had that much time spare time. I know you miss me!

I don't know what to think about the nomination... I am a little disappointed - that is all I can say for now!

7:17 PM  
Blogger American Idiot said...

i don't think they were behind when the beat the 49ers by 40 points...didn't the cowboys almost lose to sf? so embarrassing.

7:31 PM  
Blogger The Anti-Liberali said...

Oh... I saw AI get punked the other day... it was funny!


8:24 PM  
Blogger Tori said...

"Fundamentally, I agree with American Idiot that you're "comparing apples and oranges." There's a distinction between a broad statement concerning an entire class of people and a derogatory statement made against a public figure (remember constitutional malice is required for defamation)."

I agree that it wasn't the nicest thing to say, BUT horrible remarks are made all the time against republicans by the left. So I take offense to all of it.

9:33 PM  
Blogger Ranting Republican said...

I'm a bit disappointed by the nomination of Harriet Miers as well, for two reasons:

1. It looks like Bush just rolled over and gave up. That's not what I want in a President - it seems he sees her as an easy ideological target and the left won't be able to find their "extraordinary circumstances" to warrant a filibuster. He's going to get a fight anyway - for my second reason.

2. Cronyism - Federalist No. 76 -

"To what purpose then require the cooperation of the SEnate? I answer, that the necessity of their concurrence would have a powerful, though, in general, a silent operation. It would be an excellent check upon a spirit of favoritism in the President, and would tend greatly to prevent the appointment of unfit characters from State prejudice, from family connection, from PERSONAL ATTACHMENT, or from a view to popularity. HE would be both ashamed and afraid to bring forward, for the most distinguished or lucrative stations, candidates who had no other merit than that of coming from the same STate to which he particularly belonged, OR OF BEING IN SOME WAY OR OTHE RPERSONALLY ALLIED TO HIM, or of possessing the necessary insignificance and pliancy to render them the obsequious instruments of his pleasure."

I think Alexander Hamilton would be fairly disappointed that Bush chose his personal attorney for hte position - but then again, we don't know much about this woman, only Bush does...I guess he generally deserves some deference, but I think there's absolutely a fair argument by the left for cronyism. But then again, Hamilton is dead, and worse things have happened in politics...

So I'm a bit disappointed with his choice, especially when there are so many other extremely well-qualified judges out there. He should have nominated her to a court of appeals, at least for some experience before Stevens or Ginsburg quit...both of which I think will be gone during Bush's term.

7:10 AM  
Blogger Ranting Republican said...

I knew that post was off-topic, but it seems this current post has run its course...just trying to help you out A-L.

7:11 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

RR, why do you post these intelligent comments about Miers here and then post nothing on my blog about a post related to Miers? I feel jaded.

Anyway, it's safe to say that most supreme court nominees are friends or known quantities to the President before hand. Why would anyone ever hire someone they didn't know. It makes sense he would nominate a known quantity, at least to him.

I am hesitant about her as well, but I am fairly confident that she is very pro-life and will vote to overturn Roe V. Wade, the only case that really matters when it comes to the Supreme Court.

As far as the BBC, it's government paid for dribble. I can't believe you would even quote it as a news source.

As for Philly, yes, I am sure it has become very popular among leeches. My friend visited there about two years ago for work and thought it was one big poo-hole like Detroit, and he was downtown! Perhaps it's a popular destination among bums, hookers, pimps and thieves, is that what you were referring to?

7:51 AM  
Blogger Ranting Republican said...

Sorry Eddie - haven't made it over to your blog yet this morning - I'll get there, don't worry :)

See, when it comes down to it, I hate that the entire judicial debate has to come down to Roe v. Wade - because, honestly, I don't want Roe overturned...I'd like restrictions, like those discussed in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, but I don't think Roe should be overruled. Personally, I'm more concerned with cases such as the eminent domain type case, etc.

I'll come over to your blog this afternoon!

8:12 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Well RR, that is where you and I disagree. Much like Rhenquist, I don't believe that the case was rooted in law. If you want to see babies butchered, go overseas.

8:22 AM  
Blogger American Idiot said...

and if you want to abortions illegalized move to afghanistan. that country is 100% anti-choice. so is syria.

and as for philadelphia, maybe you all should check out this article from National Geographic's Traveller magazine, which is the largest travelling publication in the country:

12:14 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

No need to move to Afghanistan, baby butchering is illegal in the modern Countries of Ireland and Portugal.

12:31 PM  
Blogger American Idiot said...

well there ya have it. move to portugal. i'll stick with every other modern country on this planet, including the good old USofA.

2:00 PM  

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